Thursday, January 12, 2023

Alfa GTV6 US and Euro Ride Height Specs

Alfa GTV6 Front Image

 When the Alfa Romeo GTV6 hit American shores in 1981, the car we received was modified to meet DOT and EPA standards. Luckily, there weren't drastic differences between European and North American spec cars. . 

Some of the main differences between a North American and Euro-spec GTV6:

  • Impact absorbing bumpers
  • Standard Leather interior (1981-84) and air conditioning
  • US-approved sealed beam headlights and side markers
  • 85 mph speedometer (used on cars through 1983)
  • Catalytic converter with Lambda control and specific engine calibrations
  • Catalytic converter overheat and oxygen sensor replacement warning light
  • New ignition distributor with a different advance curve and added vacuum retard mechanism
  • Slightly less power: 154 hp @5500rpm vs. Euro's 158 hp @5600rpm / 151.9 lbs.Ft @3200 rpm vs. Euro's 156 lb.Ft @4000 rpm
  • Raised ride height to meet DOT headlight height standards

A common modification to US GTV6 models is lowering the front end height to European specifications or even lower. This can be "easily" done by adjusting the front torsion bars. I use quotations around "easily" because 40 years later, the torsion bars may be rusted or frozen in place and a bear to unseat.* Dealing with that is a story for another day.

How To Check Your GTV6's Ride Height

Below are the GTV6 ride height specifications if you want to check yours. These checks are done with stock tire sizes, pressures, and a specified weight of 210kg / 462 lbs added to your car in specific locations. This weight corresponds to three people that weigh 154 lbs each. I feel sorry for the person sitting in the back seat on the center storage tray!

Early GTV6 Rear Seats
US GTV6 models have a center tray between the rear seats. European cars that I have seen do not. If you have a European car that has the tray, feel free to let us know in the comments!

The manual tells you to disconnect the sway bar and shock absorbers front and rear to remove any of their influence on ride height. They also want you to loosen the Watts linkage bolts to the body. It is hard to say how many people do that, but it makes sense. Owning an older Italian car was never going to be easy.


GTV6 Load for Height

Above is the chart showing how to distribute the weight in the car for an accurate height check, but before you get too crazy, it just represents three people that weigh 70kg / 154lbs each. Note the rear passenger gets to sit in the middle of the seat! Also, make sure the car has a full tank of gas. 


GTV6 Front End Height


Once you have the weight loaded into your car, you measure the differences between the two locations.  Location "A" is at the bottom of the ball joint stud.  Location "B" is the bottom of the lower control arm mounting bracket.  Below are the specs:

1981 European Alfa GTV6 Front Ride Height**

  • B-A=44MM +/-5
up to 1983 European Alfa GTV6 Front Ride Height (revised)**
  • B-A=50MM +/-5mm

US Spec 1982 Alfa GTV6 Front Ride Height

  • B-A= 60MM +/-5

** Original 1981-82 European Inspection Specification Manual (publication date 1/81) states 44 mm ride height. The late manual for model years up to 1983 model year ( publication date 3/84) uses 50MM spec and states this manual replaces and supersedes all older manuals on the subject. Which measurement do you use? Taken at face value, the later manual is supposed to be the revised measurement. If you are new to older Alfas, get used to discrepancies and ambiguities like this.

Note: Left and Right side differences should not exceed 5mm.

GTV6 Rear End Height

For the rear,  the measurement when loaded is the same for the US and European markets. The "C" measurement should be 34 mm +/- 5 mm.  It can be adjusted by inserting a shim in the upper spring seat.  At one time, shims sized 7,14 and 21 mm were available through your dealer. Now, you'll have to make them. An Alfa Romeo technical bulletin cautions to not use a shim larger than 21mm as coil binding may occur.

Okay, but I don't have three friends weighing 154 lbs each, and I've got other things to do. So how's this info going to help?

You can use the above information to plan your lowering target.

As you can see, the difference in height between a US and Euro car at the specified weight is nominally 10mm, but taking tolerances into account, it may be as much as 26mm. Interestingly, the original European 4-cylinder Alfetta models from the early 70s use the 39 to 44 mm spec. 

Keep in mind if you want to lower your car, there are some negatives. Be warned that the GTV6 is already prone to grounding on speed bumps, driveways, etc. If you run headers and lower your car, you will likely dent them. Also, the engine's beautifully finned oil sump becomes even more vulnerable. 

Lowering a GTV6 too much can result in excessive negative camber, necessitating modifying the lower control arm mounts to bring the car back to specs. In addition, the suspension geometry can be affected, diminishing the handling. Also, the car will be prone to constantly bottoming out on the bump stops, ruining the ride. And, of course, a wheel alignment should be done after any suspension work.

What Would I Do?

The Alfa GTV6 is already a good handling car, and as an Alfa engineer and racer once told me, few people can actually outdrive the standard car, so you'd be better off spending effort on improving your driving.  

Good advice, but I still like tweaking my cars.

So for my car, lowering 20 - 26 mm (about 3/4 to 1 inch) seems reasonable, considering the horrible New York roads I deal with and my low-hanging headers. It is visually noticeable and even more important, brings the suspension back near its original European specifications.  

GTV6 Torsion Bar
*The front GTV6 torsion bars have 35 splines on the front and 34 splines on the rear. The different number of splines on the ends allows for 1.5 mm adjustment, corresponding to one spline movement. Working on automotive suspension systems and dealing with springs / torsion bars can be extremely dangerous. While the procedure of adjusting the ride height seems easy, I recommend professionals or experienced people do this work. Always be safe and aware of all risks before proceeding.


If that is not low enough for you, adjusting the height to where the lower control arms are parallel to the ground with a normal load is popular in the GTV6 community. 

Only you know what is right for you, so do your own research and checking.  As always, YMMV.


Disclaimer: The above is provided for informational and entertainment purposes only. If you have any doubts on you ability to perform this work or have any issues, I recommend having it done by a professional. I am not responsible for any issues arriving from you reading this post. Use at your own risk.


Reference:
Alfa Romeo Inspection Specifications European Manual dated 1/81, 2/81 and 3/84
Alfa Romeo Inspection Specifications North American Manual dated 4/81
Alfa Romeo Alfetta Workshop Manual dated 3/78

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European GTV6 Ride Hight Specs, US GTV6 Ride Height Specs, Difference between US and Euro GTV6 Models



Tuesday, December 6, 2022

Certificate of Origin Alfa Romeo GTV6

 

Alfa Romeo Certificate of Origin


Alfa Romeo offers a service where they can send you a Certificate of Origin for your car. The Alfa Romeo Certificate of Origin documents when your vehicle was made and other information. Some may consider it a neat novelty to have, but there is also a practical side where it can help during a restoration and may even add value when selling your car.  


Alfa Romeo offers this service for all their vehicles. However, the information varies depending on the model, year of manufacture, and sales market. For my 1982 GTV6, production date, interior, and exterior colors. An engine number confirmation was available if you provided them with the number stamped on your block. Some cars may have more or less information.

Alfa GTV6 Engine Number

To get a certificate, you'll need your chassis number. Note, this is not the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). On a GTV6, the chassis number is stamped on the firewall under the wiper motor. 

The Alfa Romeo GTV6 Chassis Number or Body Number location is shown in the image below. The Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) is the plate seen through the windshield.

Alfa GTV6 Chassis Numbers

Once you have the Chassis Number, contact Alfa Romeo, they will reply with what information is available and give you the cost of the service. At the moment, Alfa Romeo charges 120€ for the service. The breakdown is below (note the tax. Ouch!).

  • Certificato di Origine ALFA ROMEO - 98.36€
  • Tax - 21.64 €

Go to the Alfa Romeo Museum's Certificate of Origin's link:

Alfa Romeo Certificate of Origin Form

Here's their direct email address.

centrodocumentazione@museoalfaromeo.com

The Certificate of Origin is printed on fancy, high-quality paper, and is sent only in the Italian language. A preview will be emailed in English.

Below is the email I was sent:

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Dear Mr Vitale,

Please find attached the preview with the information related to the chassis number you have requested. 

Kindly note that we will send the document, printed on high-quality paper, to the address provided with the confirmation of the quote.  

Thank you and kind regard


From the production registers held in the Centro Documentazione Alfa Romeo, the chassis number ZAR 11669000002475 originally corresponds to: 

  • Alfa Romeo GTV 6 2.5 USA 
  • Production date: 1981, November 18th 
  • Exterior color: Nero metallizzato 
  • Interior: Pelle color blu 
  • Note: Engine number AR A50820 corresponds to the engine first mounted in the vehicle.
Alfa Romeo Museum Address
Alfa Romeo Museum Address

Viale Alfa Romeo, 20020 Arese (MI) Italy
Tel.+39 02 444 255 11, info@museoalfaromeo.com, www.museoalfaromeo.com
FCA Partecipazioni S.p.A. a socio unico - Sede: via Plava 80 - Loft 1, 10135 Torino; Capitale sociale Euro 55.989.946,00 i.v.;
Reg. Imp. Torino, Cod. Fisc. e P.IVA 01053960017; REA di Torino 488477;
Direzione e coordinamento ex art. 2497 c.c.: Stellantis N.V.

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So a nice thing to have and maybe a splurge, but also an excellent way to document your car's originality and equipment.


Video: Alfa Romeo Museum YouTube Channel

Saturday, November 5, 2022

GTV6 Green Distributor Primary Wire

 

Alfa GTV6 Distributor Primary Connector

The Alfa GTV6 Distributor Primary Lead Wire is plugged into the side of the distributor housing with a special plug.  Don't just yank this plug out! There is a wire spring clip that needs to be carefully removed. The spring clip is similar to the ones holding in the temperature sensors and injectors. 

Be careful when unplugging this connector because it can be delicate and brittle after all these years.  One of the larger issues with a classic car like the GTV6 is trying to find uncommon, but important pieces like this, so tread lightly!

Note, I have an early car with a 2-wire connector.  Later cars using the Bosch EZ-L digital electronic ignition system have a 3-wire connector.

Alfa GTV6 Distributor Connector

My pick is pointing to the wire clip that needs to be removed. This could be covered with grime, so you may have to look closely for it.

GTV6 Distributor Connector

You can see me holding this U-shaped wire clip.  It fits into the two grooves in the black connector attached to the distributor.

Alfa GTV6 Distributor Primary Wire

 
Hard to see, but the wire clip is installed. A little bit of dirt can make this difficult to see.



Alfa GTV6 Distributor Primary Connector

This is the signal or primary wire unplugged from the distributor.  The tabs on either side get locked in by the wire clip. A good tip I use is to place some white paper towels underneath something I am working on so if you drop a tiny clip you'll find it and it won't fall into the engine compartment never to be seen.



Thursday, October 27, 2022

Alfa GTV6 Coolant Fan Switch

 Alfa GTV6 Coolant Fan Switch

The Alfa Romeo GTV6 uses a coolant fan switch in the radiator to turn the fans on and off.  This 2-prong switch is located on the driver's side of the radiator, just above the lower radiator hose. When the temperature of the coolant leaving the radiator reaches a set point, the contacts close in the switch and fans turn on.


Alfa GTV6 Radiator Fan Switch

The thermostat on an Alfa GTV6 begins to open up at 176°F (80° C).  The coolant fan switch in the radiator turns the fans on at 183.2° - 190.4 ° F (84-88° C).  A coolant temperature sensor in the thermostat housing controls the temperature gauge in the car and turns on the overheat warning light at 221°F (105°C). 


Alfa GTV6 fan switch washers

My Alfa GTV6's radiator coolant fan switch is marked to turn on at 187° F (86° C)  and turn off at 169°F (76°C). When you install this switch, use a new 22MM aluminum sealing washer. By the way, this is the same size as the GTV6's oil drain plug washer, so you may have one. The wrench size is 1 1/8 inch or 29mm. Alfa Romeo also recommends using anti-seize on the threads to help sealing.

Alfa Romeo GTV6 Radiator Cooling Fan Switch Specs

  • Temperature: 183.2 - 190.4 ° F (84-88° C)
  • Tightening Torque: 14.5 - 18.1 ft.lb (20 - 25 Nm)
  • Wrench Size: 29mm or 1 1/8 inch
  • Thread Size: 22x1.5mm Thread size
  • Sealing Washer Size: 22MM Aluminum
  • Sealant: Anti-seize
  • Alfa Romeo Part Number: 60506988

The good news is this 2-prong switch is a common design and used by other car companies like Fiat, VW and Audi, so it is readily available. Note, you may have to modify your connector to use a non-original one. Also, be careful to match the temperature specifications. 

Click The Link Below to Read More:

Alfa Romeo Cooling System Specifications

Tuesday, October 25, 2022

Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks

Early USA GTV6 Timing Marks

The Alfa Romeo GTV6 is not an ordinary car, and some of its mechanical components have a bit of an enigma surrounding them. One of these features is the mysterious markings on the crankshaft pulley used for ignition and valve timing. It is essential to have a perfect understanding of these marks, or you can get into trouble, so stick around.

81-83 Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks

While most cars use numbers or hashmark either on the crankshaft pulley or timing cover to verify engine timing, the Alfa GTV6 uses a confusing bunch of letters. On top of that, depending on if you have a US or Euro-spec car, only some of these letters coincide. So if you don't realize you are using a Euro-car repair manual or a North American manual, you can get screwed up. Fear not; we'll help decipher these letters like a pro.

Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks Early USA

Looking at the crank pulley on a North American GTV6, you will see R, F, P, and M etched into the crank pulley. This differs from Euro-spec cars that just have P, F, and M. 

The letters correspond to the following Italian words:

  • R - Ritardato or Retarded
  • F - Fisso or Fixed
  • P - Punto or Point/Dot
  • M -Massimo or Maximum

Above the crank pulley, there will be a pointer on the front engine flange that you line up to these letters.

Early Alfa GTV6 Timing Mark


Alfa GTV6 TDC Timing Mark

On a 1981 -mid-1983 North American GTV6, the marks correspond to:

  • R- 5° +/- 1° ATDC (After Top Dead Center)
  • F and P - TDC (Top Dead Center)
  • M - 26-29° BTDC (Before Top Dead Center)


 Early US GTV6 Timing Spec

Base ignition timing at the 800 -1000 rpm idle with the distributor vacuum line connected should be at the R mark (or 5° +/- 1° ATDC). Note, with the vacuum hose disconnected, timing will advance to the P (TDC) mark.

Timing at 5,000 with the distributor vacuum line disconnected should be at the M mark ( 26-29° BTDC).


Late Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks


Late GTV6 Timing Marks

On some late-1983* and newer North American GTV6, the marks correspond to:

  • P - TDC (Top Dead Center)
  • F- 2° BTDC (Before Top Dead Center)

Cars from about late-83* and up use the Bosch EZ-L digital electronic ignition system where you just set initial advance. The distributor's internal centrifugal advance mechanism is eliminated and combined within the electronic control unit. In addition, a vacuum advance capsule boosts part-throttle performance and fuel economy during part throttle operation. 

Initial ignition timing at the  950 +/- 50 rpm idle speed with vacuum hose disconnected is 2° BTDC. 


European Alfa GTV6 Timing

European Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks

  • P - TDC (Top Dead Center)
  • F-  7° - 10° BTDC (Before Top Dead Center)
  • M - 28-31 ° BTDC (Before Top Dead Center)


The European GTV6 ignition system is similar to the early North American car's setup. Different initial timing, advance curve, and the elimination of vacuum retard are the main differences.


Euro GTV6 Base Timing


Base ignition timing at the 850 -1000 rpm idle with the distributor vacuum line disconnected should be at the F mark (or 7° - 10° BTDC). 


Euro GTV6 Max Timing Mark


Timing at 5,000 rpm with the distributor vacuum line disconnected should be at the M mark ( 28-31 ° BTDC).


Alfa GTV6 Top Dead Center Mark

Alfa GTV6 TDC Timing Mark


  • P - TDC (Top Dead Center)

The P mark on the crank pulley corresponds to TDC on all GTV6 models. 


Timing Mark Degreeing the GTV6 Crank Pulley

My Alfa GTV6 Timing Marks

If you own an Alfa Romeo, you likely enjoy modifying and trying to improve its performance. If you are doing an engine mod, accurately knowing the crankshaft degrees during an event like ignition, valve opening/closing, etc., is vital. With the marks you have on the crank pulley, you can figure out the distance of each degree and mark them off. For example, on my North American 1982 GTV6, every degree is approximately .040" or 1.016mm apart. 

Alfa GTV6 Crank Markings

I have a European distributor installed in my car and want to time my engine at 10° BTDC. I simply measured the distance between P and R (equals 5°) on my crank pulley and came up with approximately 5mm. So, I placed 2 marks 5mm apart BTDC, corresponding to 5° and 10°. Simple. You could do that all around the crank if you desire.



* Documentation shows 1983 50 State (California) emission compliant GTV6 models came with the late ignition systems.

Wednesday, October 19, 2022

Alfa GTV6 Cooling System Specs

 

Alfa GTV6 Cooling System Diagram
1 Thermostatic valve, 2 Water thermometer sender and thermal switch for coolant temperature warning light, 3 Heater, 4 Heater valve, 5 Heater valve control, 6 Coolant temperature warning light, 7 Coolant thermometer, 8 Radiator, 9 Electric fan, 10 Electric fan thermal switch, 11 Pump, 12 Header tank, 13 Header tank cap, 14 Electric fan relay

When you are doing work on the cooling system of your Alfa GTV6, having the specs come in handy.  To save you time, here are some of the ones I've needed to find in the middle of a job. .

You will note that there is an Alfa Romeo recommended a coolant system sealant.  In the old days, OEM manufacturers would add a coolant sealant to help seal the system on brand new cars!


Alfa GTV6 Cooling System Specs

GTV6 Coolant Capacity: 

  • 3.2 gallons / 12 liters

GTV6 Radiator Testing Pressure

  • 15.6 psi (1.1 bar)

GTV6 Radiator Cap Pressure Rating

  • 12.8-15.64 psi (.88- 1.08 bar)

GTV6 Thermostat Temperature

  • initial opening: 180-185°F (81-85°C)
  • fully open: 200°F (95°C)

GTV6 Radiator Fan Cut-In Temperature

  • 185-190°F (84-88°C)

GTV6 Coolant System Tightening Torques

 Water Pump Retaining Bolts

  • 6-6.9 lb/ft (8.1-9.3Nm)

Water Temperature Transmitter on thermostat housing

  • 14.4-18 lb/ft (20-25 Nm)

Engine Temperature Sensor on thermostat housing

  • 10.8lb/ft (15 Nm)

Thermo-time Switch on thermostat housing

  • 21.6lb/ft (29 Nm)

Radiator Cooling Fan Switch

  • 14.4-18 lb/ft (20-25 Nm)


Anti-seize Thread Sealants:  

  • Water Temp Transmitter, Engine Temperature Sensor, Thermo-time Switch threads  on                       thermostat housing.
  • Threads on Cooling Fan Switch in Radiator

Cooling System Sealant

  • Arexons Sealing Powder 4.5 oz (12grams)
  • Alumaseal Powder


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Alfa Romeo GTV6 Cooling System Diagram

Source: Alfa Romeo Service Manual, 1981 NA GTV6 Technical Specifications

Welcome to My GTV6 Website

 

1982 Alfa GTV6

Welcome to my Alfa GTV6 website! This place is dedicated to my Alfa Romeo GTV6 and helping others keep their GTV6 on the road. I've owned my GTV6 since 1986, but I parked it 20 years ago when my son was born. So now the time has come to start enjoying my car again. But time hasn't been too kind, so follow along as I get my car road worthy again. We'll have plenty of tech and info to help you, too!

Thanks for visiting!


Chris


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